England v Pakistan ODI/T20i Series - Aug 24 - Sept 7

[The Professor]

Always feel that a D/L win renders everything a bit flat. Wish there was a better way of settling such games.

[Aidan11]

Like penalties in football, there's no perfect solution but this is probably fairer than past ways of settling rain affected games.

[backfootpunch]

Always feel that a D/L win renders everything a bit flat. Wish there was a better way of settling such games.

In this case there was only going to be one winner

[andy]

Pakistan never had enough runs on the board to be threatning....Gul's performance was pretty poor, suprised he's even back to be honest, particuartly when Junaid Khan remains un-selected..

[ianp1970]

Root v Trott. No brainer, or would you go for Root?

What was the context AC?

Pick a best Eng ODI no. 3 from the last 10 years, or something totally different...

[Arthur Crabtree]

I suppose best ODI side ever. I put it that way because I know a lot of people didn't rate IJLT. I did though and he would have been in my side, though probably Root would take the spot now.

[Arthur Crabtree]

England likely to be unchanged tomorrow (which means Bairstow and Willey will be released to Yorkshire on Sunday).

[backfootpunch]

England likely to be unchanged tomorrow (which means Bairstow and Willey will be released to Yorkshire on Sunday).

Hopefully the rain stays away

[ianp1970]

I suppose best ODI side ever. I put it that way because I know a lot of people didn't rate IJLT. I did though and he would have been in my side, though probably Root would take the spot now.

Difficult to evaluate then...

My best team would get thrashed by the current 3rd XI, but the way the game is played has changed umpteen-fold!

[Dr Cricket]

Think most best 11s would get thrashed or destroyed in odi these days only really pakistan would struggle to beat their best 11 and possibly west indies considering Viv and 4 or 5 all time great bowlers would beat the current best WI odi team.

the way the game played now means any team scoring 260-270 would lose 80% of their games.

[Making_Splinters]

Well, Viv is over 60 so I doubt he'd put up much of a fight anymore.

[backfootpunch]

Think most best 11s would get thrashed or destroyed in odi these days only really pakistan would struggle to beat their best 11 and possibly west indies considering Viv and 4 or 5 all time great bowlers would beat the current best WI odi team.

the way the game played now means any team scoring 260-270 would lose 80% of their games.

I dont think the current aussie team would get close to there best team

[backfootpunch]

Well, Viv is over 60 so I doubt he'd put up much of a fight anymore.

Probably still get in the team

[Dr Cricket]

Depends how Australia best 11 plays like if they play like 270 is a winning total they will get hammered since these days the players are so much stronger and can generally score 360 that 300 is a piece of cake and the current Australian Odi teams got a good attack so will probably do well against the all time Australian team from the past.

Bevan tactic of a chase is unlikely to work in the current climate.

Impossible to find out though since Ian said Odi cricket changed so much in the last 10 years but one thing that is guranteed is that batsman have gotten so much better at clearing the boundaries and the biggest myth is the better bats and rob key is spot on that it the batsman getting better and stronger rather than the bats and awful or weak batsman will still struggle to clear the rope in a consistent basis and it takes skill to score a quick hundred consistently.

In reality impossible to compare the era really since Odi cricket totally different to what it was 15 yrs ago and the way the game played is moved on massively.

tbh quite hard to pick a best 11 in Odi for most teams since do you pick a team that defends or scores 270 or do you pick a team most likely to score quick runs/big runs and restrict teams to less than 300.

the way the game played now reckon most teams would beat their best 11 if they played like they did in their own time.
Really can't see the past players Scoring quick hundreds or chasing 300 with ease and it can't be blamed on pitches either since Odi decks haven't really changed just been the tempo and small things like rotating strike better having no areas where the bowlers can get a dot ball and being able to hit sixes at will.
In terms of ability the players might be lesser but the rest outline above outweigh that difference.

[Arthur Crabtree]

Yet, standards of play in Tests has diminished. Even fielding, in terms of catching.