County Fantasy Manager 2015

[ianp1970]

This is how I described the lottery process in the first year. The principle remains the same, but the financials will be different this time around.

Player Lottery

Okay here comes the info on exactly how the player lottery will work. Health warning: this may be the most confusing part!

The only impact you will have on the player lottery is the amount of money you have going into it and the number of players you need to draw. Everything else is luck.

Players will be allocated from the lottery from highest value player downwards. Approximately £800,000 will be added to your budget at the end of the auction. The exact figure will depend on how people overbid in the initial auction.

The lottery will automatically select the team with the highest budget-left-per-player-needed-to-draw. I’ll explain this in a 4 way scenario.

Team A buys Marcus Trescothick for £500,000
Team B buys 7 players for £500,000
Team C buys 6 players for £500,000
Team D buys 7 players for £480,000

So assuming it is exactly £800,000 that will be added post auction, everyone’s budget-left-per-player-needed-to-draw would be:

Team A £800,000 / 19 players = £42,105
Team B £800,000 / 13 players = £61,538
Team C £800,000 / 14 players = £57,143
Team D £820,000 / 13 players = £63,077

Therefore Team D will get the first automatic pick from the players not bought in the auction. Let’s say he draws a player worth £80,000, his new budget left per player needed to draw will be:

Team D £740,000 / 12 players = £61,666

So he will get the next pick again. Let’s say it is another £80,000 player:

Team D £660,000 / 11 players = £60,000

Now the eagled eyed amongst you will have seen that Team B now move up in the order and get the next pick.

This method will then ensue until everyone has a full team. Everyone should end up with teams of an even value at the end of this process.

You might notice buy bidding £500,000 for one player Team A is going to wait ages for his first lottery pick, whereas Team D who saved most money in the auction is going to build a team with quite a bit of depth, but may not get all the players he wants.

So it is quite complicated, but the important thing to remember is the less you spend on more players, the better off you are come the lottery.

[st_brendy]

I propose the following.....

1. In order of budget amount left, players with any money left can pay value for any remaining players, with the person with the highest budget having preference, no tie breakers, they get the player if duplicated. This is because they spent the least money, so probably neither have a bigger squad or abused their budget simply to buy all the talent.

2. Once all budgets are gone, its a blind lottery. The people who played the long game were advantaged by having an extra round, that makes up for the fact that smaller teams with high value per player teams had one less round and less pick of the dregs.


This will mean, in essence, that everyone should either have a mean first squad but little depth, a well balanced team, or really good depth and little start quality... Either way, its then a more balanced competition?

1. would negate the point of having 4 rounds of bids though - we may as well just have 5 rounds of bids. The whole point should be that by this stage everyone had the same opportunity to spend their money and if you haven't spent it then it's gone. If you can use it to keep bidding then we're basically exactly where we were after round 3 which doesn't make much sense imo.

even the blind lottery has more merit imo.

If not fussed how it is decided we progress from him. I'll go along with anything.

But Red does make a good point. Surely the point of round 4 was fir people to use up the money they have left? Given that there were players left to buy, why didn't those people buy them? They had the money to.

I'm not sure I understand favouring those with money left over those with none. (Of course favour those with big squads over those with small. If they've spent all their money, then those with small squads must have bid big and few. With the most likely result that they have the best individuals. So the disadvantage to that would be not being favoured now).

[Dr Cricket]

Ian are you doing the lottery live one by one like Season does on the football game or releasing the results all together.

[ianp1970]

Ian are you doing the lottery live one by one like Season does on the football game or releasing the results all together.

You must be joking!

[ianp1970]

It has taken me til now to process it

[ianp1970]

Draft details:

[Dr Cricket]

Ian are you doing the lottery live one by one like Season does on the football game or releasing the results all together.

You must be joking!

Don't worry was joking, Season uses a complicated software to do it

[Dr Cricket]

Quite happy with how my lottery went.
Feel sorry for CF Eagles though not a great lottery for him

[st_brendy]

Top work Ian (and not just because I think I've come out of that quite well, given what I already have to go with it!)

[ntini77]

Only the one wicket keeper signed by me. Humongous error on my part.

[SaintPowelly]

Is the 1st round this week ??

[st_brendy]

Only the one wicket keeper signed by me. Humongous error on my part.

I've only really got the one too. A couple in there who can keep wicket, but they rarely - if ever - will.

[ianp1970]

Is the 1st round this week ??

Sure is.

I will try to sort the Google Docs out later...

What a bu**er of a week!

[Red Devil]

Ian, I'm a bit confused.

as an example:

Colly had 80k left, so once you add 800, he is left with 880, so with 14 players left to pick, that leaves him with 62.86k per player.

I had 0 left so with 800 that leaves me with 800 - and with 10 players left to get that means I have 80k per player.

Therefore, it looks like i should get first pick first, and then should probably get another few in as well - however Colly got as many as 5 players before I got my first.

It looks like something has gone wrong. Colly spent far more per player in the bidding and then has the advantage in the lottery as well - which I thought was exactly what was supposed to be avoided.

similarly, Bhavesh looks like he should have 960k for 18 players, so only has 53.33 per player; powelly has 830k for 13, so that's 63.85k; sussex is 940k for 7 so that's 135k so he should have his bids in first

[ianp1970]

Ian, I'm a bit confused.

as an example:

Colly had 80k left, so once you add 800, he is left with 880, so with 14 players left to pick, that leaves him with 62.86k per player.

I had 0 left so with 800 that leaves me with 800 - and with 10 players left to get that means I have 80k per player.

Therefore, it looks like i should get first pick first, and then should probably get another few in as well - however Colly got as many as 5 players before I got my first.

It looks like something has gone wrong. Colly spent far more per player in the bidding and then has the advantage in the lottery as well - which I thought was exactly what was supposed to be avoided.

As posted earlier, the example used 800K cash from year 1.